From david at toosh.biz Fri Oct 3 13:14:17 2008 From: david at toosh.biz (David Abse) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 14:14:17 +0200 Subject: [LifeisTOOSHort] Joe Kinnear lets loose on the press References: <8CAF3643137A2FD-15E4-2AEB@WEBMAIL-DF05.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6AC1A1D6-E14F-4809-B152-575BD5198384@toosh.biz> The following is an edited transcript of Newcastle interim manager Joe Kinnear's first official press conference yesterday JK Which one is Simon Bird [Daily Mirror's north-east football writer]? SB Me. JK You're a cunt. SB Thank you. JK Which one is Hickman [Niall, football writer for the Express]? You are out of order. Absolutely fucking out of order. If you do it again, I am telling you you can fuck off and go to another ground. I will not come and stand for that fucking crap. No fucking way, lies. Fuck, you're saying I turned up and they [Newcastle's players] fucked off. SB No Joe, have you read it, it doesn't actually say that. Have you read it? JK I've fucking read it, I've read it. SB It doesn't say that. Have you read it? JK You are trying to fucking undermine my position already. SB Have you read it, it doesn't say that. I knew you knew they were having a day off. JK Fuck off. Fuck off. It's your last fucking chance. SB You read the copy? It doesn't say that you didn't know. JK What about the headline, you think that's a good headline? SB I didn't write the headline, you read the copy. JK You are negative bastards, the pair of you. SB So if I get a new job next week would I take the first day off? No I wouldn't. If I get a new job should I call my boss and tell him I am taking the first day off? JK It is none of your fucking business. What the fuck are you going to do? You ain't got the balls to be a fucking manager. Fucking day off. Do I want your opinion. Do I have to listen to you? SB No, you can listen to who you want. JK I had a 24-hour meeting with the entire staff. SB Joe, you are only here six weeks, you could have done that on Sunday, or Saturday night. JK No, no, no. I didn't want to do it. I had some other things to do. SB What? More important things? JK What are you? My personal secretary? Fuck off. SB You could have done the meeting Saturday night or Sunday. You could have had them watching videos, you could have organised them. JK I was meeting the fucking chairman the owner, everyone else. Talking about things. SB It is a valid point that was made in there. A valid point. JK I can't trust any of you. Niall Hickman Joe, no one could believe that on your first day at your new club, the first-team players were not in. No one could believe it in town. Your first day in the office. JK My first day was with the coaches. I made the decision that I wanted to get as much information out of them. NH But why Monday, no one could believe it? JK I'm not going to tell you anything. I don't understand where you are coming from. You are delighted that Newcastle are getting beat and are in the state they are? Delighted, are you? NH Certainly not. No one wants to see them get beaten, why would we? JK I have done it before. It is going to my fucking lawyers. So are about three others. If they can find something in it that is a court case it is going to court. I am not fucking about. I don't talk to fucking anybody. It is raking up stories. You are fucking so fucking slimy you are raking up players that I got rid of. Players that I had fallen out with. You are not asking Robbie Earle, because he is sensible. You are not asking Warren Barton? No. Because he is fucking sensible. Anyone who had played for me for 10 years at any level ... [but] you will find some cunt that ... Other journalist How long is your contract for Joe? JK None of your business. SB Well it is actually, because we cover the club. The club say you are here to the end of October, then you say six to eight games which would take it to the end of November. We are trying to clarify these issues. We are getting no straight answers from anyone. How long are you here for. It is a dead simple question. And you don't know ... JK I was told the length of contract. Then I was told that possibly the club could be sold in that time. That is as far as I know. That's it finished. I don't know anything else. But I have been ridiculed. He's trying to fucking hide, he's trying to do this or that. There follows an exchange regarding the circumstances under which Kinnear had met the owner Mike Ashley and executive director (football) Dennis Wise. Steve Brenner (football writer for the Sun) We are all grown men and can come in here and sit around and talk about football, but coming in here and calling people cunts? JK Why? Because I am annoyed. I am not accepting that. If it is libellous, it is going to where I want it to go. Newcastle press officer What has been said in here is off the record and doesn't go outside. Journalist Well, is that what Joe thinks? JK Write what you like. Makes no difference to me. Don't affect me I assure you. It'll be the last time I see you anyway. Won't affect me. See how we go at Everton and Chrissy [Chris Hughton, assistant manager] can do it, someone else can do it. Don't trust any of yous. I will pick two local papers and speak to them and the rest can fuck off. I ain't coming up here to have the piss taken out of me. I have a million pages of crap that has been written about me. I'm ridiculed for no reason. I'm defenceless. I can't get a point in, I can't say nothing, I can't do nothing, but I ain't going to be negative. Then, half of you, most of you are trying to get into the players. I'm not going to tell you what the players think of you, so then you try and get into them in some way or another, so I've got a split camp or something like that, something like that. It's ongoing. It just doesn't stop. Journalist It's only been a week. JK Exactly. It feels more like a year. Journalist It's early days for you to be like this. JK No, I'm clearing the air. And this is the last time I'm going to speak to you. You want to know why, I'm telling you. This is the last time. You can do what you like. Journalist But this isn't going to do you or us any good. JK I'll speak to the supporters. I'm going to tell them what the story is. I'm going to tell them. I don't think they'll interpret it any different, I don't think they'll mix it up, I don't think they'll miss out things. I mean, one of them last week said to me ... I was talking about in that press conference where you were there, I said something like "Well, that's a load of bollocks ..." Journalist "Bollocks to that" is what you said. JK Bollocks to that. And what goes after that? Journalist That was it. JK No it wasn't, no it wasn't. What was after it? I don't know if it was your paper, but what went after it? Journalist I don't know. JK It even had the cheek to say "bollocks to Newcastle". Journalist I didn't write that. JK That was my first fucking day. What does that tell you? What does that tell you? Journalist Where was that? Which paper said that? JK I've got it. I can't remember. It was one of the Sundays, not a Saturday. It was a Sunday. Journalist But you didn't say that to the Sundays, you said that to us. That was during the Monday press conference. JK I'll bring it in and show it to you. Why would I want to say that? Journalist Are you saying that someone has reported you saying "bollocks to Newcastle?" JK Yes. Lovely. Journalist I don't know who's reported that. JK I'll tell you what, I'll bring it in. Journalist That's obviously going to damage you. That's not a good thing. But I don't think someone's done that. We have to have some sort of relationship with you. JK So have I. But I haven't come in here for you lot to take the piss out of me. And if I'm not flavour of the month for you, it don't fucking bother me. I've got a job to do. And I'm going to do it to the best of my ability. I'm not going to spend any more time listening to any crap or reading any crap. Stick to the truth and the facts. And don't twist anything. Journalist You know, you know the game ... JK Of course I know, but I don't have to like it. Journalist Today we'll print the absolute truth, that you think we're cunts, we can all fuck off and we're slimy. Is that fair enough? JK Do it. Fine. Fucking print it. Am I going to worry about it? Put in also that it'll be the last time I see you. Put that in as well. Good. Do it. Much, much later after long discussions over whether Kinnear had promised Alan Shearer and Kevin Keegan would be returning to the club Press officer Let's get on to football. Let's have an agreement that everything said so far, if anyone has got their tapes on, it's wiped off and we're not discussing it. Journalist But that's what Joe has said he thinks of us. Press officer I'm saying don't push it. Let's accept what's been said and try and move on. Journalist: Move on to not doing any more press conferences? PO: No, to doing something now. Journalist: What, one press conference only? (Silence) Journalist: Any knocks? PO: Come on, let's go football. Journalist: What are your plans for training in the next three days? How's the training going? JK It's going very well. No problems at all. Journalist Enjoyed getting back in the swing of things? JK Absolutely. I've loved every moment of it. __ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From david at toosh.biz Fri Oct 3 15:57:05 2008 From: david at toosh.biz (David Abse) Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 16:57:05 +0200 Subject: [LifeisTOOSHort] Safe for Work Message-ID: <47A73DF0-888E-44A2-93AD-978A76F33C4D@toosh.biz> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI3bx5lgHcU D From david at toosh.biz Sun Oct 5 13:30:47 2008 From: david at toosh.biz (David Abse) Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 14:30:47 +0200 Subject: [LifeisTOOSHort] Nazi Bloggers - This is not a joke Message-ID: <9E57EB4A-CAEA-43F2-8E29-A495BFA6AEB2@toosh.biz> Hi Unusually, I am using this mailing list to spread some information rather than humour. As you may know, I do an occasional blog on my website, mainly about Cardiff City, but occasionally about other things that grab my fancy. I get about 2 people a month looking at it (well, maybe a few more), and I don't do it regularly. My last entry was made on September 7th and was about a local festival we went to in France that was rained off. It wasn't very exciting, but this is what it said (accompanied by a picture): "This year the 1900 festival in Ganges was spoiled by the rain. Like many others we ran for shelter as the rains came down on the fantastic horse show. Well, we had seen it last year. On the plus side i realised that wearing glasses saves getting your eye poked out by umbrellas, and it was nice seeing the Place Olivet without cars in it. It's been strange weather in france this summer - not enough consistant sun. As I write this it is cloudy, despite my computer telling me that today's forecast is 28 degrees and sun... Oh well." Bizarrely: here's a comment I received: "Life aint short enough for the likes of you... Red scum!" From some person calling themselves "Britain Awake", who is a Blogger member, running a racist pro-BNP Blog called - you guessed it - Britain Awake. I was shocked to receive this comment (which I rejected, obviously), but became even more concerned when I learned that there was virtually NOTHING I could do about this, since Blogger do not accept any emails or comments. I have reported the evil blog as breaking Blogger rules, but Blogger's ignorant "Freedom of Speech" rules seem to allow this sort of crap to go on unchallenged, and I have filled out a contact form for Google - who unfortunately just send an automated response, without any guarantee of anyone reading anything. I am not naive enough to assume this sort of evil stuff doesn't exist on the interenet, but it seems I am naive enough to think that this sort of stuff carries on without Blogger and Google (who own Blogger, in case you didn't know) seeming to care. I have no idea what else to do about this except to pass the word on - which is why I am contacting you (and others) with regards to this, and hope someone somewhere can advise me, do something or whatever. Best wishes - and I hope that someone has an idea of what to do. Thanks for reading this David -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From niall.sweby at gmail.com Mon Oct 6 09:39:18 2008 From: niall.sweby at gmail.com (Niall) Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2008 09:39:18 +0100 Subject: [LifeisTOOSHort] Nazi Bloggers - This is not a joke In-Reply-To: <9E57EB4A-CAEA-43F2-8E29-A495BFA6AEB2@toosh.biz> References: <9E57EB4A-CAEA-43F2-8E29-A495BFA6AEB2@toosh.biz> Message-ID: <56bfdea10810060139q4cacdf11w1ec3e3c310aa2373@mail.gmail.com> > > Bizarrely: here's a comment I received: > > "Life aint short enough for the likes of you... > Red scum!" > Is that Cardiff's away colour? I doubt there's much you can do to be honest. Posting comments to his blog would be pointless as he'd just reject them to. If you knew his e-mail you could complain to his ISP, but Stormfront get to keep their website so not sure how far that works either. Could you do a search on Blogger for subject themed anti-racist blogs who presumably may have had to deal with this problem before and ask them how they went about it? > > From some person calling themselves "Britain Awake", who is a Blogger > member, running a racist pro-BNP Blog called - you guessed it - Britain > Awake. I was shocked to receive this comment (which I rejected, obviously), > but became even more concerned when I learned that there was virtually > NOTHING I could do about this, since Blogger do not accept any emails or > comments. I have reported the evil blog as breaking Blogger rules, but > Blogger's ignorant "Freedom of Speech" rules seem to allow this sort of crap > to go on unchallenged, and I have filled out a contact form for Google - who > unfortunately just send an automated response, without any guarantee of > anyone reading anything. I am not naive enough to assume this sort of evil > stuff doesn't exist on the interenet, but it seems I am naive enough to > think that this sort of stuff carries on without Blogger and Google (who own > Blogger, in case you didn't know) seeming to care. > > I have no idea what else to do about this except to pass the word on - > which is why I am contacting you (and others) with regards to this, and hope > someone somewhere can advise me, do something or whatever. > > Best wishes - and I hope that someone has an idea of what to do. > > Thanks for reading this > > David > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > LifeisTOOSHort mailing list > LifeisTOOSHort at toosh.co.uk > http://toosh.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/lifeistooshort_toosh.co.uk > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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